Abuse and submission

I’m doing some research on abuse and submission as a result of a recent incident (poorly framed sermon) at the church I was attending. Here are a few thoughts from articles that are jaw-dropping… unfortunately mainly because I’ve never, in 40+ years of church attendance, heard them.

Why women stay in abusive domestic situations:

One woman was Beverly Gooden who tweeted on September 8, “I stayed because my pastor told me God hates divorce.  It didn’t cross my mind that God might hate abuse, too.”  ~https://www.etbu.edu/php/theintersection/a-biblical-response-to-domestic-violence/

Toward the end of the above article there are verses that show the Bible to address domestic violence and abuse. I don’t recognize most… and never heard them in church. The church has generally taken the stance that divorce is wrong. Why have they not discussed the sin of abuse? The response of my former church would have been that the woman wasn’t sinning in accepting the abuse, but would have sinned by divorcing the abuser. Is this accurate? If she allows him to continue sinning by her silence, particularly if she has children who are also subjected to abuse or the affects of living in a home where abuse is accepted, is she sinning less by her silence than by leaving?

A lot of the messages around violence against women are aimed at women – like not taking illegal cabs for example. But we feel there also needs to be a campaign aimed at men saying ‘please stop’,” he says.~https://www.christiantoday.com/article/towards.an.effective.church.response.to.domestic.abuse/27307.htm

Wait. Please stop?!?! This was taken from Christianity Today, not some obscure website. Please? 

From the same article:

In the Christian context, abusers may use Scripture or theological positions to justify their behaviour, while the women may believe that the permanence of marriage, the importance of forgiveness, and the headship of the man in the family means they must simply accept it.
“This needs to be talked about and what forgiveness means needs to be explained because people don’t realise that it is not being a doormat,” says Natalie, who is helping to draft Restored’s resources.

Notice that Natalie does not say that the permanence of marriage and the headship of man needs to be discussed. Just the issue of what forgiveness means. One of her last statements, though, stands out most:
“At the minute, the church isn’t the answer for people suffering abuse,” says Natalie.

Interesting to me was a Catholic article that stated, among other things:

Violence and abuse, not divorce, break up a marriage. ~https://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/marriage-and-family/marriage/domestic-violence/when-i-call-for-help.cfm

This article also brings out scripture that shows abuse is wrong. I may post some of those in a separate article. They aren’t discussed or quoted nearly enough… and they need to be heard much more than “Wives submit…” and “women must remain silent” do. There are far more of them, but they are far less heard.

One last statement, because those reading it may well hear their own stories, no matter what sort of abuse they faced or from whom within the church:

He wanted submission from his wife and children. He wanted us to sit at his feet and learn from him. He wanted support and adoration from everyone. He wanted service and loyalty. Everything became HIS way. He knew BEST in EVERYTHING. … I didn’t seem like I adored him enough. I wasn’t loving him enough.

I sank into a deep depression. I began to see God differently than ever before. I felt like God was ONLY for my husband and not for me unless I was more obedient…more submissive…more adoring. I began to see myself as only a person in regards to my husband. Not an individual loved my Christ. I didn’t even feel like a human being anymore. Only a servant…and a terrible one at that. I don’t go to church anymore. I can’t pray. I don’t trust God. I struggle so hard to believe He loves me anymore.~https://cryingoutforjustice.com/2016/10/14/the-churchs-response-to-feminism-has-swung-the-pendulum-too-far-the-other-way-and-it-is-leading-to-abuse/

The quote above is very similar to things I’ve said due to church abuse. Only the man wanting submission and adoration was the pastor, not my husband. Abuse is wrong in any form.

Please follow and like us:

Author: Through Grace

I was raised in a somewhat unhealthy church group within the Nondenominational Christian Church. After graduating high school, I began attending a United Pentecostal Church (UPC). I've been a member of four UPC churches and visited many others. Of the four of which I was a member, I was "encouraged" not to leave the first and then later sent to the second; attended the second where an usher repeatedly attempted to touch me and the pastor told me I should not care about the standards of the organization and was wrong to do so; ran to a third at that point, which threw me out after a couple years; and walked out of a fourth. For these transfers and because I refused to gossip about my former churches, some called me a "wandering star, a cloud without water" (Jude 1:12). I love the fact that when the blind man was healed, questioned by the Pharisees and temple rulers, and expelled from the temple, Jesus went and sought him out. He very rarely did this once someone was healed, but for this man, he did. I believe God has a special place in his heart for those who are abused, wrongfully accused, or condemned by religious leadership. I believe He loves those who are wronged by churchianity--yes, churchianity, not Christianity, because those who do these wrongs follow a church, not Christ. 1 John 4:7-8 7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. 8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. 10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

2 thoughts on “Abuse and submission”

  1. My daughter endured and hid a 10 year marriage of abuse that was physical, emotional and spiritual. I finally found out about it and went to our legalistic pastor and was asked “what did she do to cause this?” That made me furious so my girlfriend and I snuck out clothes for her and my 3 granddaughters and contacted a women’s shelter. One day he left on an errand and we loaded everything up and met the shelters van in a parking lot. None of us knew where they were taking them but we knew she and the girls would be safe. Of course her husband was furious when he got home and I was honestly glad I could tell him I didn’t know where they were. She saw a lawyer and filed for divorce and he fought it all the way and it was a very messy divorce. But finally she was free and at peace and safe. That was in 2011 and the callous way the church treated her was one of the reasons we left that church.
    Submission is not a good subject for us to discuss but we do like how our new pastor teaches it. That if the husband truly loves his wife and treats her like the scriptures say there would be no reason to teach on submission. He also doesn’t believe in divorce unless there is a sultry involved or abuse. Thank God for that!

    1. I’m so glad she was able to leave that abuse, and that you were able to help her. So many women and children escape that level of abuse with only the clothes on their backs and no support. Your daughter and granddaughters are lucky to have you and your girlfriend. I’m glad she’s free, at peace, and safe now. It’s good that your pastor includes abuse as a valid reason for divorce, too.

Leave a Reply to Cindy Horvath Cancel reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

Click to access the login or register cheese
YouTube
YouTube
x  Powerful Protection for WordPress, from Shield Security
This Site Is Protected By
ShieldPRO